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# 05FEB2024
## TH Fab
Car: 68 mi
Time: 2 hr
Hashed out details of arrangement, met guys
Torque to turn while in ground: 120 in-lb
# 07FEB2024 - 2.3
Set up SOLIDWORKS
clock "IN" 15:33
clock "OUT" 17:52
target = 100 in-lbf (8.5 ft-lbf)
PG71 = 16.6 ft-lbf / 75rpm
... ok so that's not so bad.
builtin worm gearbox = 30:1 ratio
shaft is a 5/8" shaft with a 1/2" long D-shaft stub: 1/2" diameter, 3/8" to the flat, with a cross-pin meant to capture a 1/4" (.266 actual) plate. The 5/8" section is 1" long.
full range of spider angle is 120deg
let's say 2 seconds to full completion
that's 60deg/sec (10 rpm)
times a 30:1 gear ratio is 300 rpm
times a 2:1 gear ratio is 600 rpm
which is NOT in range for a PG71; by about an order of magnitude
The pg71 would take about 20 seconds to do a full changeover which is pretty long...
how fast does a 5 deg adjustment need to take?
ballpark 0.5s
that's 10deg/s (1.6666666 rpm)
times 30:1 times 2:1 is 100 rpm
which *is* pretty similar to a pg71
Sent email to https://www.klaubergear.com/contact-us-kmg asking for a motor with 100RPM free and 30 ft-lbf stall
## HTD Pulley combo - Shaftloc
[62T Pulley](https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/product/?id=A_6T25-H62DF1524)
[19T Pulley](https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/product/?id=A_6T25-H19SF1520)
ehhhh too small of diameters
## GT2 Pulleys - Metal
https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/?cid=p217&filter=a0%3A2%3A5%20mm%20(GT2)&sort=undefined&view=table
https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/?cid=p342&filter=a0%3A2%3ASingle%20Sided%3Ba16%3A2%3A5%20mm%20(GT2)%3Ba185%3A2%3A15.0&sort=undefined&view=table
[56T - $32.35 / $25.15](https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/product/?id=A_6A55-056NF1516)
[17T - $15.02 / $ 9.74](https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/product/?id=A_6A55-017NF1508)
[120T- $31.81 / $19.88](https://shop.sdp-si.com/catalog/product/?id=A_6R55M120150) (also not in stock)
Total: $79.18 / $54.77
## #25 Chain
(Hey, this would need a tensioner right? Maybe that's a good thing anyways though...)
[15T - $14.90](https://www.mcmaster.com/2737T109/)
[30T - $23.81](https://www.mcmaster.com/2737T223/)
[2ft - $13.68](https://www.mcmaster.com/6261K171-6261K282/)
Total: $52.39
[23T - $18.60](https://www.mcmaster.com/2737T154/)
[45T - $36.67](https://www.mcmaster.com/2737T312/)
[2ft - $13.68](https://www.mcmaster.com/6261K171-6261K282/)
Total: $69.95
## #35 Chain
[15T - $18.21](https://www.mcmaster.com/6280k371/)
[30T - $48.48](https://www.mcmaster.com/6236K231/)
[2ft - $10.14](https://www.mcmaster.com/6261k172/)
Total: $76.83
... huh. Surprising that actually starts to get competitive with GT2 stuff.
## 25 or 35?
#25: 140lbf working
#35: 480lbf working
15T #25: 100 in*lbf / (0.250*15/pi)/2 = 167 lbf in chain which is a lot!
15T #35: 100 in*lbf / (0.375*15/pi)/2 = 112 lbf in chain which is well within working
#35 is probably the way to go, especially for now.
## Final observations
The drive shaft will need to be different.
So you might as well put the drive mechanism on what is currently the nut side, so you don't have to worry about the locking mechanism.
# 08FEB2024 - 0.5+0.2+3
Clock in: 10:21
12" long, 8" diameter $350 - $600-$700 sample
not a very helpful call... except maybe that I need a very different motor
maybe this is the right way to go: https://www.amazon.com/MOCW-Stabilizer-Replacement-K01285-C800-K01531-A800/dp/B09LM63RHY
## C800 motor
- 12VDC
- 7A
- 53:1 gear ratio
- 68 RPM
- 50 in-lbf run torque
clock out 10:53
clock in 10:58
clock out 11:18
clock in 15:27
Advised to visit CSH Incorporated; sure enough, they have the C800 motor: https://www.cshincorporated.com/k01531a800-replaces-k01285-c800-klauber-gear-motor/
clock out 18:09
I specced 8+3+3 = 14 hours for the design phase and I've burned 6 so far.. ok
# 12FEB2024
clock in 1500
clock out
# 16FEB2024
clock in 17:20
clock out 18:15
https://www.geartechnology.com/ext/resources/issues/0791x/errichello.pdf
how fast are we going?
300*2*pi/60/s*40mm to ft/min = 247.4 ft/min
300*2*pi/60/s*40mm to m/s = 1.26 m/s
https://khkgears.net/new/gear_knowledge/gear_technical_reference/lubrication-of-gears.html
KHK seems to think that grease is appropriate.
10-30 C - 200-245
30-55 C - 350-510
# 23FEB2024
clock in 11:00
clock out 11:02 - :02
clock in 12:38
clock out 13:42 - 1:04
clock in 14:00
clock out 16:24 - 2:24
total: 3:30
ack.
clock in 8:06
clock out 10:30
todo:
- [x] finalize tensioner
- [ ] finalize cover
- [/] add hardware
- [ ] make BOM
bison EP18864-1 looks interesting
## pots
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amphenol-piher-sensing-systems/MSC360-1A-C0007-ERA180-05K/13543612
billed
# 22MAR2024 - 3.5hr
# 25MAR2024 - 2.5hr
clock in 9:48
clock out 10:48
clock in 11:00
clock out 12:30
Vishay 981he is a reputable option
981HE0B4WA1F16
MODEL: 981HE
Features: 0 continuous rotation
Linearity: A 1% (B 0.5%)
Electrical Angle: 4 (360)
Output type: W wires
Output signal: A or B (Analog CW/CCW)
Shaft type: 1F16 (1: 6.35, F: flatted, 16: length (16mm, standard))
$58: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Spectrol/981HE0B4WA1F16?qs=IpR5h64PZJnosCtHP9bpXQ%3D%3D
https://www.newark.com/vishay/981he0b4wa1f16/throttle-position-sensor/dp/15R3247
981HE0B4WA8H01 could work too, it's CCW, hollow D shaft: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Spectrol/981HE0B4WA8H01?qs=xBCDPT02SF1aAq7obDlm8w%3D%3D
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/tt-electronics-bi/6127V1A360L-5FS/2620662?_gl=1*129k53o*_up*MQ..&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwYSwBhDcARIsAOyL0fjJ-HkKXQrTdVH6HHXJhOSrwul2iJfY-HebIL0XmgPecjzIoHLtjhEaAtmFEALw_wcB
# ZF CU103602
Non-contact which is excellent
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/zf-electronics/CU103602/1642202 $59.74
CU103601 is 180deg instead of 360
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/zf-electronics/CU103601/1642200 $59.74
https://www.sager.com/product/cu103601-zf-electronics/2449228
could also get the AS500106 magnet separately
the AN820031 / 32 has 12" 18awg wire leads and 180degrees motion as opposed to the connector
# I think this is the best option:
AN820032 https://us.rs-online.com/product/zf-electronics/an820032/70386254/ - $28.54
AS500106 https://us.rs-online.com/product/zf-electronics/as500106/70386256/ - $8.41
- $36.95
- wire leads
- 360 deg
- non-contact
YOU CAN USE THE AS1010 OR 709-21995 WITH IT TOO!
- AS101001 is south
- AS101002 is north
- AS101003 is south with samarium
RTP180LVxxA
PST360
PST360G2-1A-C0000-ERA360-RE-K
- 14mm rotor
- simple analog
- C0000
- 360 deg rotational angle
- 7-15V
- 200Hz PWM
PST360G2-1S-C0000-ERA360-05K
- 14mm rotor
- SPI
- C0000
- 360deg rotational angle
- 5V
https://www.newark.com/amphenol-piher-sensorscontrols/pst360g2-1s-c0000-era360-05k/magnetic-rotary-sensor-analog/dp/74AH3318?st=pst360g2
Ideal: PST360G2-1A-C0000-ERA360-05K
# 28MAR2024 - 1 hr
It works! Current characteristics:
- 15A inrush current
- 6-8A on unworked ground
- 5-6A on worked ground
- 4A in air
Motor characteristics
- 7 A running
- 12 VDC
- 68 RPM
- 50 IN-LBF
# 29MAR2024 - 5 hr
clock in 08:15
clock out 09:45
clock in 09:50
clock out 11:18
clock in 12:00
clock out 14:00
Let's say
8A x 2 x 25 = 400 A
400 A * 12V = 4800 W
8A x 12V = 96W
96W x 12s = 1152 J -> 16F capacitor
15A x 12v x 0.01s = 1.8J -> 25 mF capacitor
Hey... you know you were measuring the whole system current, not just the motor, right? Hmm.
https://portal.agleader.com/community/s/article/2052?language=en_US
https://portal.agleader.com/community/s/article/2420?language=en_US
Oh man there's so much on agleader's site
OK, but... an auxillary battery might be a better solution than a power unit. We are doing sporadic high current, not continuous lower current.
400A * 12s * 50 times / (3600 h/s) = 66 Ah = a car battery
Wire fusing currents (lol): https://www.powerstream.com/wire-fusing-currents.htm
Wire size: https://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm
Pre-made 2AWG leads: https://www.amazon.com/ABIGAIL-Battery-Inverter-Automotive-Motorcycle/dp/B0BVB29FKR
2AWG running from the middle seems reasonable...
northamerica@zf.com
AN9 is same as AN8 but redundant output
ANG-11HAW1
BILLED
## So many tasks!
[ ] Get answers from ZF (worst case: we can't sell you that magnet, and there's nothing to be done about the other thingy... make one? eesh. 2x6mm magnets)
[ ] Top sensor mount
[ ] Lower sensor mount
[ ] Cable routing
[ ] Buy a bunch of electronics for prototyping
[ ] Fix holes
# 02APR2024 - 1hr
clock in 1000
clock out 1100
# 03APR2024 - 2.5hr
clock in 2100
clock out 2330
AutomationDirect
12mm inductive sensors
PBM6-CP-1A - flush 2mm / PNP NC
PBM6-AP-1A - flush 2mm / PNP NO
PBM6-AN-1A - flush 2mm / NPN NO (limited stock)
PBM6-AP-2A - proud 4mm / PNP NO
200mA
lengths vary...
for the IC side of things
- LM2907 / LM2917 F->V converter
- LM397 voltage comparator
TONE DETECTION IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
## LM567
LM567CN is a DIP
fo = 1 / (1.1 * R1 * C1)
fo = 1 Hz ?
R1 * C1 = 0.9
w 0.1 uF cap = 9 Mohm
fo = 5 Hz
solve 5 = 1/(1.1 * x * 0.1e-6) for x
-> R1 = 2Mohm
100mA current sinking for output
LM567CN + L7805CP + Or gate (drive signal at 12V)
the 567 is high frequency = low
low frequency = high
so make the signal low frequency = high
so OR gate (74LS32)
# 04APR2024
clock IN 0845
clock OUT 1130
clock IN 1400
clock OUT 1600
DTP10-4P
DT15-4P
DTP10-4P
DTP15-4P
AMPHENOL, YOOOO
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/rectangular-connectors/headers-male-pins/314?s=N4IgjCBcoBw1oDGUBmBDANgZwKYBoQB7KAbRACYAGAZjADYB2EAXQIAcAXKEAZQ4CcAlgDsA5iAC%2BBALQAWBCGSR02fCABuw1JlwFikMgxpgArC3ZdIISRIlA
littelfuse 55505 and ZF GS101201/02 are interchangeable
I kinda like their package better
# 11APR2024
clock IN 0830
clock OUT 1100
clock IN 0200
clock OUT 0400
got CAN working
# 12APR2024
clock IN 0700
clock OUT 0800
clock IN 1515
clock OUT 1853
clock IN 1949
clock OUT 2049
## Stalling C800 motor
I get 300mV on my oscope at 10 mV/A -> 30A (multimeter seems to confirm this)
Boy, it's a torquey motor!
3in ^2 * pi/4 * 120 psi to lbf = 283 lbf
airbag fully extended 7.75-8" long. pivot point distance 3.75".
AN820032
ANG-11HAW1
55300-00-02-A !!!
PS2P-ARC is cool
PS2P-CON is usable
PS2P-CON-CE-1A0-C0000-ERA360-05 is $50 and would just work
https://us.rs-online.com/product/piher-amphenol/ps2p-con-ce-1a0-c0000-era360-05
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-Piher/PS2P-CON-CE-1A0-C0000-ERA360-05?qs=wnTfsH77Xs6wFhE4CvwJ8Q%3D%3D
PIHER's PSCI series seems too good to be true (they are)
AS5600... man... it's cheap and tiny. Is it robust?
# 13APR2024
clock IN 0800
clock OUT 1050
shear strength of grade 8 = 91ksi
shear force for 5/16" bolt: 91000 psi * (0.3125in)^2 * pi/4 = 6980 lbf
torque on shaft = 6980 lbf * 1.25 in = 8725 in-lbf
pitch diameter of worm about 3.11 in
force on worm = 5610 lbf
pin diameter = .156 in = 292600 psi
(91000 psi * (0.3125in)^2 * pi/4 * 1.25 in / (3.11 in /2)) / ((.15625in)^2*pi/4)
# 14APR2024
clock IN 1345
clock OUT 1438
LM567C is not the right path
4*12 mph / (18*pi inches) to 1/s -> 15 Hz
4*1 mph / (18*pi inches) to 1/s -> 1.25 Hz
# 16APR2024
clock IN 1230
clock OUT 1630
clock IN 2034
clock OUT 2200
tested CAN bus over 30 feet CAT5
got LCDs working (you can do custom characters with them too)
tested inductive prox over 30 feet CAT5
continued developing messaging protocol
got encoders working (with buttons... not as encoders. need to spec them)
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/pei-genesis/IPM12-A8F-PC-3/13143998
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amphenol-ltw/M12A-08PFFS-SF8001/5253167
ehhhh: https://www.amazon.com/Aviation-Connector-Lonlonty-Flange-Waterproof/dp/B0BBQN6NVR/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1RM3U3RJ342YG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bL04l_yAqfeArHfLlg9T5d5RPh52acgbzRwVCM8-fxsUksWOMbU8Gxn0KOUqjmJOjqCmgdsAOUl3yodYaxWHqw3ek3NAk0B4xYAcwzmHugxA3Gevigw_hjoXH8bgcT-ZmjiQhQy4_IkIEj5AzJZY55B4aQdJbO_sbNiGkLnrS0G7ITY4Or9OsrQZ0MgtwAEX6cZvOvkUeU7mNrrGzB2jXsS-DcmJUiF3Rs0-NCncIcw.EDwEZQ4hL5bwr5xqx8iOiIJiWp6Ss7g1c_4wkJBdQZA&dib_tag=se&keywords=m12+8+pin+bulkhead&qid=1713325429&sprefix=m12-8+bulkhead%2Caps%2C433&sr=8-4
box: https://www.amazon.com/Otdorpatio-Waterproof-Electrical-Electronic-200x120x75/dp/B09B6QHQDQ
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bud-industries/CU-3283/428968
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bud-industries/PN-1324-DG/387043
1092D1-12V-ND
1092D5-12V-ND
PEC11R-4220K-S0024
adafruit 5529, 2056
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/PEC11R-4220K-S0024/6164059
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cliff-electronic-components-ltd/FC7252/21406836
COM-10002 is best
# 18APR2024
clock IN downforce 1343
clock OUT 1355
clock IN RHP 1718
clock OUT RHP 1932
clock IN SSACT 2008
clock OUT SSACT 2230
IPM12-<coding><# contacts><Male or Female>-<SocketCup or PCb mount or FlyingLeads> (-3 for front mount)
IPM12-A8M-SC-3 is for socket cup
IPM12-A8M-PC-3 is for PCB mount
********F is for female
looks like flying leads aren't available lol
# 19APR2024
clock IN 1500
clock OUT 1700
clock IN 2030
clock OUT 2400
breakers
relay: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/power-relays-over-2-amps/188?s=N4IgjCBcoOwExVAYygMwIYBsDOBTANCAPZQDaIccAnGACwCsIhDMAHDAGxMW1X2uNCcXvy4BdQgAcALlBABlaQCcAlgDsA5iAC%2BhOgAYqiECkgYcBYmRC199KhyMSQMuYtWade2mH3HT5niEJJDkcPoABACC3ADMkTHOrpAgAKpqKtIA8qgAsrjo2ACuSrheIAC0CNAmUMpFliHkjGLabUA
J107F1CS205VDC.45 should work: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cit-relay-and-switch/J107F1CS205VDC-45/14000915
- 90mA coil current
- 20A running current
NOTE: AT15-<x>P-BM03 is the board mount you want, when you go to design a PCB
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cit-relay-and-switch/A161CS12VDC-64/12503232 is also good
# 09MAY2024
clock IN 0800 (SS)
clock OUT 1300 (SS)
clock IN 1315 (RHP)
clock OUT 1415 (RHP)
clock IN 1415 (SS)
Spider actuator works. Reasonably tuned. Here's a list of things that can/should be done:
- Try the Piher sensor
- Build a wiring harness
- Mount sensors to cover
- Space out the actuator
- Put a USB port on the control box
- Put SD card logging in the control box
- Design mount for the center sensor
- Put cigarette lighter adapter on M12 cable for RHP
- Potentiometers for dimming
#29MAY2024
testing
started
kP 100
kD 75
sample len 25
runs 1 & 2
changed to
kP 75
kD 50
sample len 18
changed
sample len 12
kP 70
kD 40
len 15
kP 80
kD 50
#31MAY2024
refining CAD
replaced THF-W210 with simply THF-2091
modified
THF-2091
THF-2071
THF-2045
THF-2057
THF-2079
THF-2078
THF-2061
created
THF-2091-GASKET
CENTER PIVOT SENSOR BRACKET
removed
THF-W210 (replaced with THF-2091)
# 01JUN2024
what MCU to use?
- R4 Minima
- Mega Embed
- Nano
# 07SEP2024
let center be positive cw, so it's positive when the rear is tilted left
let angle be positive throwing in
let front and rear be positive cw
if (center > 0)
front = + angle + center
rear = - angle - center
else
front = - angle + center
rear = + angle - center
if (row == 0 and center > 0)
rear = - center
if (row == 0 and center <= 0)
front = + center
if (row == LAST and center > 0)
front = + center
if (row == LAST and center <= 0)
rear = - center
- OR -
if (center > 0)
front = + angle
rear = - angle
else
front = - angle
rear = + angle
if (row == 0 and center > 0)
rear = 0
if (row == 0 and center <= 0)
front = 0
if (row == LAST and center > 0)
front = 0
if (row == LAST and center <= 0)
rear = 0