Nigel - Aerospace eng for 36 yr
degrees in mechand biomech eng
lots of experience with quantum, optics, laser technology
wrote a masters on hippocampus states in rats, using quantum, could differentiate vigilant states of a rat
Diagnosed difficult airplane problems
Discipline chief / design reviews
Gardening for quite a while
The sooner we adopt nature rather than working against her we'll be better off

John Tumelty - 
Found a community/"cult" in CA
Got very sick with undiagnosable illnesses, HSV, parasites

Sauerkraut to detox glyphosate

### What
- we're sick, food is contaminated
- you can't really raise a pig in most backyards
- there's always going to be a room for animal husbandry

- Offer a product that is data-driven
- Define a process that produces a high-quality product
- Get some data that you can 100% stand behind beyond a shadow of a doubt

three legs:
- data
- process
- marketing

do we really want to use IP?